and a loss for libya. what the imbeseals who kills him probably did not know is he was one of the best friends libya all around the world. if the dictatorship of gadhafi failed it is due in a big part to ambassador chris stevens and i want to pay him homage today before anything else. >> but what does it tell you about libya? have the extremists become so strong in that country? what it tells me about libya is what, of course, we all knew. there is a political fight inside libya between democrats and between fanatics, between those who believe in the process, which was -- which began with the fall of gadhafi, and those who want to stop the process. the guys who are still the minority in libya, who did that, this terrible criminal act, they want to freeze the arab spring. so the question today is should we help them to switch off the flame of democracy or should we continue to believe in the flame of democracy. i believe the second. i believe that we have more than evolved to help those who are -- after amb